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Dieze Adamantite Poster

Dieze

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Disputed member:
Thread Link: http://osbot.org/forum/topic/94515-40-att-70-str-70-range-questing/
Explanation/Evidence below:

We agreed on 40m payment (20m per acc) for two of the following from a fresh level 3 - i supply bond + 1m payment:

40 attack 70 str 70 range
Mith gloves
Ava's
Horror from deep
Death plateau

The next update i get, 9 days later, is to find that he isnt happy with the amount he is being paid for the service, and he had been discussing with other people what he should be paid for the service.
Also at this point, he mentions he is no longer doing 2 accounts, and has decided to do 1 at a time without telling me, at this point i let it go - fair enough not much of an issue but would of preferred being notified.
He states its going well, but hasnt been able to login for a few days due to irl problems and will most likely have to buy another bond, and asks if he can use the one i provided for the other account i asked for which he is no longer doing - which i agreed to at this point, giving the circumstances he told me.

At the end of the evidence below, we go on to discuss another order i had posted on the forums which wasn't related. I basically didnt go ahead with it personally due to the other order having problems.

Chat logs for above:
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Earlier this week, i logged in the account as i hadnt heard from him, to notice very little work had been done, so i attempted to contact sezerr to find out how its going.

Didnt get much of a response until today, where has has told me that he had to fire his previous worker, and my order is on hold now until his other orders are done.

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This is now where i am annoyed, not once has Sezerr mentioned that he had a worker on my account, previously he mentioned how he had IRL issues and was unable to play the account.

So on either on that occasion, or today he has simply lied to my face. So i thought i'd have a look at his feedback. Take note of the time stamp on the picture below found in the chat logs above..

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Above you can clearly see he has gained feedback from the 30th April fair enough thats 3 days before, however he was supposed to be working on my account, which had little work done.

Dont worry, the best is yet to come.

Now lets take a look at his thread.

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The one thing that is glaringly missing, is the mention of any workers within his service? Also, i did notice this in his TOS.

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Which rings a bell, regarding something he asked me around the time he wasnt too happy with the amount i was paying him - since he got quotes elsewhere.

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Not that it matters much, he never showed me his TOS or mentioned it or asked me to agree to it, wasnt until today i looked for his thread. Not sure why he was suddenly unhappy with the price, he was fine with it at first

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Now by the time you've read through all of the above, and i mentioned the good bit was to come, lets look at the progress that has been made in the near 3 weeks since the order took place.

Stats - After 19 days
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Quests - After 19 days
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Combat - After 19 days
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Oh, and the other account is level 3.

If a moderator could please look over the above, feel free to keep it visible for all to see, there is nothing in there really i dont mind being made public - could you please advise how much i should remunerate Sezerr for the terrible service he has provided but please note the following.

1) he is a week over on the bond already
2) i would have to supply another bond for the work to be completed on the account (even if he was to carry on)
3) The work completed divided by the total order

Personally, i feel if i have to pay anything, i would value the work done at around 3-4m, less the bond at 2.5m and would therefore be disappointed if i have to pay him more than 2m. Thats not taking into account the time, which looking at the evidence wasn't clearly stated, however only 1 bond would be provided as this service shouldnt take more than 2 weeks.

I've left him negative feedback, if this is harsh (which i dont think it is) it can be removed and i'll leave a neutral.

I've had a bad experience dealing with Sezerr, the above clearly shows that - isnt that what the feedback system is for?

Sorry for the above if my tone doesn't sound good, just frustrated and dont like being lied to.

Peace
 

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sezerrr Mithril Poster

sezerrr

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So you agree with a payment of 2M, taking into account the little progress that was made overtime and the bond?

Well, i told him that i'd do 2 accs at once. But after when i only used 1 bond i told him is it fine that i can make 1 at once. he was okay with this. I had to go to turkey to bury my grandfather, so my worker would do this order. And now he wants to cancel which is no problem, i agree it is my fault but i did not think about Runescape when this shit happened. What im trying to say is I could still finish the order in 7 days or so. (Acc is still 8-9 days member).

Dieze Adamantite Poster

Dieze

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Well, i told him that i'd do 2 accs at once. But after when i only used 1 bond i told him is it fine that i can make 1 at once. he was okay with this. I had to go to turkey to bury my grandfather, so my worker would do this order. And now he wants to cancel which is no problem, i agree it is my fault but i did not think about Runescape when this shit happened. What im trying to say is I could still finish the order in 7 days or so. (Acc is still 8-9 days member).

 

You messaged me on the third of may, saying you hadnt been online for 3 days due to IRL issues (burying your grandfarther) which i undesrtand is a troublesome time (today however is the first i've heard of this).

 

But since then, it's been 10 days again with no progress.

 

Account is currently F2P? Today is also the first i've heard about any workers being on your account; and in all honesty i have no faith that if i let you on the account now: 1) any more progress may actually happy, 2) out of revenge for posting this you may ruin what you've already done so i'll be even worse off.

 

At this point i want the order to be over, so i no longer have to be surrounded in lies.

Dex Dragon Poster

Dex

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Well, i told him that i'd do 2 accs at once. But after when i only used 1 bond i told him is it fine that i can make 1 at once. he was okay with this. I had to go to turkey to bury my grandfather, so my worker would do this order. And now he wants to cancel which is no problem, i agree it is my fault but i did not think about Runescape when this shit happened. What im trying to say is I could still finish the order in 7 days or so. (Acc is still 8-9 days member).

I'm very sorry to hear that. And it is up to @Dieze if he wants to cancel the order or if he wants you to finish it. I'm pretty sure he wants to cancel it though, so it would be great if you guys can come to an agreement in regards to the price for the service you provided until now and get it over with.

 

Edit: Another thing you should know is that it's not allowed to receive feedback for the work that your wokers complete. The feedback is to be exchanged between the worker in question and the client. You should also list your workers on your service thread and let your costumers know when you let one of your workers complete their order. In addition to that, you're also not allowed to share your OSBot account with other people.

 

TLDR: It seems like you have broken many rules today.

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sezerrr Mithril Poster

sezerrr

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I'm very sorry to hear that. And it is up to @Dieze if he wants to cancel the order or if he wants you to finish it. I'm pretty sure he wants to cancel it though, so it would be great if you guys can come to an agreement in regards to the price for the service you provided until now and get it over with.

It actually doesn't matter now, I see that u deleted my feedback which i earned 100% legit, u can ask them all I did them myself. 

Dex Dragon Poster

Dex

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It actually doesn't matter now, I see that u deleted my feedback which i earned 100% legit, u can ask them all I did them myself. 

I've removed all service related feedback because you admitted to feedback farming yourself and I saw you were looking for a worker since 12 April 2016. If you have any evidence of completing the order yourself, feel free to send me it via PM and I'll happily allow your customers to leave you feedback again for the completed service.

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sezerrr Mithril Poster

sezerrr

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I'm very sorry to hear that. And it is up to @Dieze if he wants to cancel the order or if he wants you to finish it. I'm pretty sure he wants to cancel it though, so it would be great if you guys can come to an agreement in regards to the price for the service you provided until now and get it over with.

 

Edit: Another thing you should know is that it's not allowed to receive feedback for the work that your wokers complete. The feedback is to be exchanged between the worker in question and the client. You should also list your workers on your service thread and let your costumers know when you let one of your workers complete their order. In addition to that, you're also not allowed to share your OSBot account with other people.

 

TLDR: It seems like you have broken many rules today.

yes i understand. Could u reset my feedback history then? Like start with 0 again, now i know the rules etc..

sezerrr Mithril Poster

sezerrr

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I've removed all service related feedback because you admitted to feedback farming yourself and I saw you were looking for a worker since 12 April 2016. If you have any evidence of completing the order yourself, feel free to send me it via PM and I'll happily allow your customers to leave you feedback again for the completed service.

yes i have a few but not all of them, also can i get rid of this negative feedback?

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