Journey of Learning Graphics

[OSBOT Jack]

Really? No offence like, I thought 1st was best, then 2nd

[Reason]

Really? No offence like, I thought 1st was best, then 2nd

 

No worries, I'm not offended All opinions are welcome! I can only improve from feedback, so it's all good.

[OSBOT Jack]

your sig is really nice on the bright side

[Deceiver]

please stop using bevel & emboss on everything

[Reason]

please stop using bevel & emboss on everything

 

Thanks for the feedback, I think it's a nice effect, if you know of other simple effects, let me know and I'll look into them.

[OSBOT Jack]

changed my mind, the 4th was is my fav now

[Deceiver]

IMO, I rarely use B&E, b/c I feel like it doesn't have much use for the styles I use, and when I see most people use it (on text mainly), it just looks horrid honestly.

Not to say that yours are, but in some cases it does make text look 'weird', and hard to read. So with the designs you've made, and will be making. Text is obviously a big part of the design, this is why the text needs to be easily readable without interference in it (or around).

 

On your first design, it has a nice design overall, but it doesn't make sense on why the title/header has B&E, while the 'body' text doesn't. It'd be best to just not use B&E as it doesn't 'fit' with the rest of the design. On the last one, the background doesn't need B&E at all. The sub-text, being the text under the 'titles' of each box, the font doesn't 'match' the 'theme/design' of the image. Nor does it need the B&E. Nonetheless, not a bad concept for a design.

 

Like I said above, I don't mess around with B&E too much, but take these for example (also found here):

 

 

These are really nicely done B&E (plus other) effects done on the text.

[Kittie]

IMO, I rarely use B&E, b/c I feel like it doesn't have much use for the styles I use, and when I see most people use it (on text mainly), it just looks horrid honestly.

Not to say that yours are, but in some cases it does make text look 'weird', and hard to read. So with the designs you've made, and will be making. Text is obviously a big part of the design, this is why the text needs to be easily readable without interference in it (or around).

 

On your first design, it has a nice design overall, but it doesn't make sense on why the title/header has B&E, while the 'body' text doesn't. It'd be best to just not use B&E as it doesn't 'fit' with the rest of the design. On the last one, the background doesn't need B&E at all. The sub-text, being the text under the 'titles' of each box, the font doesn't 'match' the 'theme/design' of the image. Nor does it need the B&E. Nonetheless, not a bad concept for a design.

 

Like I said above, I don't mess around with B&E too much, but take these for example (also found here):

 

These are really nicely done B&E (plus other) effects done on the text.

 

Deceiver, I get that you have your own preferred techniques, but not everyone has the same tastes as you. 

 

Posting something as blunt as "please stop using bevel & emboss on everything" and then going on to say that you think most people that use B&E suck at it, doesn't help beginners at all and just comes off rude honestly.

 

While the examples that you posted are nice as well, B&E is useful in a variety of styles and shouldn't be limited to one technique just because certain people are inclined towards it..

 

I think he did great, especially for someone just starting to use photoshop!

[Deceiver]

 

Deceiver, I get that you have your own preferred techniques, but not everyone has the same tastes as you. 

 

Posting something as blunt as "please stop using bevel & emboss on everything" and then going on to say that you think most people that use B&E suck at it, doesn't help beginners at all and just comes off rude honestly.

 

While the examples that you posted are nice as well, B&E is useful in a variety of styles and shouldn't be limited to one technique just because certain people are inclined towards it..

 

I think he did great, especially for someone just starting to use photoshop!

 

 

Hi,

 

if you were going to use B&E on everything a design, that would look horrid? (Correct me if I'm wrong on that). I'm not saying B&E should only be applied to certain things, it looks nice on all, if done decently, at least. It's not rude to say that most of what I, or others, see in designs that use B&E aren't that great. It's an opinion, and if it were to come from a artist/'designer' view, it might not be visually appealing to whomever the audience/target. 

 

As well, I'm not saying it should be limited to say; text. It does work in various styles, but what I tend to see on a lot of forums, most use it for text. I don't think his designs are bad, and not to use B&E, but practice and just experiment with it till you get your bearings on it.

[Kittie]

I didn't say that you were implying that B&E should only be used for text, but that you were hinting that it only looks good in a certain way. You were showing him what 'good B&E looks like' after saying he did it wrong, and that when people don't do it right, it looks "horrid". I don't think there's a right and wrong for this because it depends on personal preference.

 

But no it's not rude to share your opinion, I just think the manner in which you did was. You could have easily showed him the examples without all the coarseness. It's off-putting for people just getting into designing, and I thought someone who posted about wanting to help beginners would be more encouraging and less passive aggressive.

 

 

Also: 

 

please stop using bevel & emboss on everything

 

 

I don't think his designs are bad, and not to use B&E, but practice and just experiment with it till you get your bearings on it.

 

How are people supposed to practice and experiment when people act as if they committed a crime? I'm not trying to be rude about it, but you can see why I mentioned what I did.

 

 

 

[Making Rice]

Hi,

 

if you were going to use B&E on everything a design, that would look horrid? (Correct me if I'm wrong on that). I'm not saying B&E should only be applied to certain things, it looks nice on all, if done decently, at least. It's not rude to say that most of what I, or others, see in designs that use B&E aren't that great. It's an opinion, and if it were to come from a artist/'designer' view, it might not be visually appealing to whomever the audience/target. 

 

As well, I'm not saying it should be limited to say; text. It does work in various styles, but what I tend to see on a lot of forums, most use it for text. I don't think his designs are bad, and not to use B&E, but practice and just experiment with it till you get your bearings on it.

 

no offence to you man, but all your comments come off as offensive. IDK if you mean to be offensive, but it just makes you sounds really cocky when you say crit, IDK why. I'm sure youre a decent person but its just what i see :P

[Deceiver]

 

I didn't say that you were implying that B&E should only be used for text, but that you were hinting that it only looks good in a certain way. You were showing him what 'good B&E looks like' after saying he did it wrong, and that when people don't do it right, it looks "horrid". I don't think there's a right and wrong for this because it depends on personal preference.

 

But no it's not rude to share your opinion, I just think the manner in which you did was. You could have easily showed him the examples without all the coarseness. It's off-putting for people just getting into designing, and I thought someone who posted about wanting to help beginners would be more encouraging and less passive aggressive.

 

 

Also: 

 

How are people supposed to practice and experiment when people act as if they committed a crime? I'm not trying to be rude about it, but you can see why I mentioned what I did.

 

Some things look good certain ways, don't they though? I wasn't saying he was doing it wrong, it could of been executed better, yes. Of course, there really isn't a right or wrong in art, but I presume when most are designing, they want it to (usually) be visually appealing.

 

Sigh, well, when you (meaning I), post critique on some of the others' works, some get mad because it doesn't match the others' comments about the work. Some of the people here, cannot take some truthful criticism. They get mad and ignorant when it comes that, then everyone else joins in.

 

Nothing wrong with experimenting and then posting it for feedback/critique, there will always be a few people who do not like it (or parts of the image). It just seems that when someone tends to have a different view on that image, they get poured with other comments of people calling that opinion 'rude'.

 

no offence to you man, but all your comments come off as offensive. IDK if you mean to be offensive, but it just makes you sounds really cocky when you say crit, IDK why. I'm sure youre a decent person but its just what i see

 

I'm not trying to be offensive at all, it's just that most of you when commenting to on someone's piece(s), are usually- "nice work", "good job", "looks sick". Which there is nothing wrong with that of course. Now, of course, when we make something, we view it from our own personal view(s) towards it, and we make it how it looks nice to us.

I just presume (and feel like) that most of the beginners (and nothing wrong with this) really do not know the basics of art in general, they just slap stuff onto the canvas, add effects and stuff and bam. Sure, that isn't a huge problem, but it'll become a habit of slapping stuff on again, and again, and again.

 

Is crit, short for critique or critical, I don't know.

 

Like I said, most of the opinions are coming from a 'designer/client' view, therefore, they might be a bit 'harsh', and I do apologize if they come across like that, but they're meant to be helpful. But with before in other places, if you have any questions or need help, my inbox is always open.

[Making Rice]

 

I'm not trying to be offensive at all, it's just that most of you when commenting to on someone's piece(s), are usually- "nice work", "good job", "looks sick". Which there is nothing wrong with that of course. Now, of course, when we make something, we view it from our own personal view(s) towards it, and we make it how it looks nice to us.

I just presume (and feel like) that most of the beginners (and nothing wrong with this) really do not know the basics of art in general, they just slap stuff onto the canvas, add effects and stuff and bam. Sure, that isn't a huge problem, but it'll become a habit of slapping stuff on again, and again, and again.

 

Is crit, short for critique or critical, I don't know.

 

Like I said, most of the opinions are coming from a 'designer/client' view, therefore, they might be a bit 'harsh', and I do apologize if they come across like that, but they're meant to be helpful. But with before in other places, if you have any questions or need help, my inbox is always open.

 

yeah I agree with you, but you should do what i do and link them to stuff to make them understand why theyre wrong, maybe a page to help or a youtube video :P

 

i do understand what youre getting at tho and yeah i do give flimsy comments like nice work or looks nice, but to the ones that seem to have potential i offer more guidance. no offence to anybody, im not saying the rest dont have potential, just that i dont see it

[Aeonx]

Looking good!