I know what you're saying, but when you script, you can make it a random time. So it's completely random like a human, you wouldn't say check every 4 mins, you're right that's too easy to tell. You would say check withing 60-180 seconds and random time so sometimes it would be 78 seconds, sometimes 97 etc. However, I get your point.

You really think scripters don't do this already? We have been implementing systems far more advanced than what you're suggesting for a long time, and they have ZERO EFFECT.

You really think scripters don't do this already? We have been implementing systems far more advanced than what you're suggesting for a long time, and they have ZERO EFFECT.

 

 

Wut lol I didn't say you weren't? All I was doing was explaining to that guy that it isn't systematically clicking every 5 minutes, it's random. Jesus. Chill.

Wut lol I didn't say you weren't? All I was doing was explaining to that guy that it isn't systematically clicking every 5 minutes, it's random. Jesus. Chill.

I'm sure he knows that already. He seems alot more educated on the matter than you do. Also, I'm pretty chill I just don't want people reading your post and thinking that's a viable solution to our problem.

I'm sure he knows that already. He seems alot more educated on the matter than you do. Also, I'm pretty chill I just don't want people reading your post and thinking that's a viable solution to our problem.

 

If he knew that, he wouldn't say that clicking every 5 minutes would help get caught. LOL

If he knew that, he wouldn't say that clicking every 5 minutes would help get caught. LOL

Yeah, well if you could read you'd realize he wasn't saying the exact timing between actions would get you banned. He was saying the repetitiveness of the actions could possibly get you banned. Which is also true. Anyways, you should quit posting if you've got nothing insightful to add to this discussion.

Yeah, well if you could read you'd realize he wasn't saying the exact timing between actions would get you banned. He was saying the repetitiveness of the actions could possibly get you banned. Which is also true. Anyways, you should quit posting if you've got nothing insightful to add to this discussion.

 

Just another know-it-all dickhead in the scripting/programming community. Why are all programmers like this.

 

-Last Post.

For a chat responder, you can add it so it says that you don't speak English.

 

"I only speak Chinese."

"? No understand, no english"

"No eglias."

 

etc etc etc.

 

Just my thoughts.

You need an "anti ban" that is completely random to each user.

Due to how Jagex anti botting system is currently getting better and better and how they read on patterns and behaviours that are repeated over and over we need more than just "check skills every 5 mins" "click this every 2 mins" ect. If anything this would get us banned even more due to it being a repeated process that everyone would be doing and not random at all.

It needs to be more complex, like using different walking tiles to get to a certain point every single trip.. ect.

 

Traditional anti ban's made by scripter offer absolutely nothing and are a joke, anyone experienced in gold farming and botting knows this.

 

^^ Guy above me gets it.

Using different walking tiles can't be implemented directly from the client, it would interfere with script....

Using different walking tiles can't be implemented directly from the client, it would interfere with script....

Yes it can, this is already done on another client.

 

Read this for info. on why this may be an important factor in reducing bans: http://iseclab.org/papers/botdetection-article.pdf

Edited January 10, 201412 yr by Deffiliate

Maybe even click a skill then exit and go backl to what is going on

I think what most people do while skilling is check other people who are in the same spot, that would be a nice idea. Also, most other people watch movies, I don't know how you can replicate that but if you could, it would probably make most bots undetactable.

 

I myself have been botting here and then since 2008 on 2 different accounts (different clients) and I have never been banned so I think the chance of getting banned is different from country to country (I'm from Morocco, not a major Runescape country :P) 

 

Just my intake on this...

I think a chat responder would avoid some reports. However making it an option would be a must if it were added.

Edited January 10, 201412 yr by drop

For a chat responder, you can add it so it says that you don't speak English.

 

"I only speak Chinese."

"? No understand, no english"

"No eglias."

 

etc etc etc.

 

Just my thoughts.

 

hahaha i'm chinese :DDD then they would ban you for sure :DD

 

For a chat responder, you can add it so it says that you don't speak English.

 

"I only speak Chinese."

"? No understand, no english"

"No eglias."

 

etc etc etc.

 

Just my thoughts.

So what... every bot is gonna say they don't speak English.... You will see all the bots spamming i don't speak English lmfao! Not gonan work pal  

 

Also you could add looking at random players names by right clicking on them but not interfering with the script.

Yes it can, this is already done on another client.

Read this for info. on why this may be an important factor in reducing bans: http://iseclab.org/papers/botdetection-article.pdf

Love your posts, you actually get it.

To everyone else I have been gold farming since early 2007 and have farmed the shit out of most games, trust me when I say the only way to get past jagex server side detection is to go beyond what other bots have created in fighting bot watch and create a very complex and random system that if every single user was compared to eachother they would be completely indistinguishable from one another, no exceptions.

You only have to read the pdf article posted in this thread to understand, this is how most major companies ban bots and what I have dealt with through many years on other games.

If we was able to achieve something like this we would be not one, but several steps ahead of jagex due to the fact they rely completely on server side detection and trying to make a complete anti botting software to combat us on the client side would be extremely hard on their part and probably take a very long time due to the limited software they have to work with, with 07.