#1 http://iseclab.org/papers/botdetection-article.pdf

#2 http://ice.ci.ritsumei.ac.jp/~ruck/PAP/ace08.pdf

 

I thought they were both interesting reads. Discuss?

lol botting is a threat .. they forgot the tons of money we pay for membership etc 

Jagex already does most of this in RS3

There will be a day all bots will be busted

All bots are already getting busted, they can now recognize weather you are on their client or a bot client.

Not to mention script quality isn`t what it was few years ago, "nexus-ibot" time. Bot Client`s too.

Damn that is a lot to read. Will look into it now. Anyhow the detection of bot won't and hopefully be as serious like RS3.

Jagex already does most of this in RS3

What do you think about the "MAD" project going on at PB? Do you think it will prove successful in bypassing Jamflex's detection systems?

I've seen these two links in another post, at least give credits for the find

I've seen these two links in another post, at least give credits for the find

I haven't seen these links anywhere else here, I had them book marked from before I even joined OSBot O_o

 

Could you link me the thread their in though? If they are on here I'd want to give the original person credit.

Yes pattern detection does exist and is only going to get better, just like the LCP detection blizzard have in WOW.

I got flamed for stating this, just like I got flamed that Jagex were off their holidays from Monday and banwaves are going to start kicking again.

People are mostly clueless on this forum and many other botting sites, It's just the way it is in the Runescape community, I doubt many people will even read those articles

Yes pattern detection does exist and is only going to get better, just like the LCP detection blizzard have in WOW.

I got flamed for stating this, just like I got flamed that Jagex were off their holidays from Monday and banwaves are going to start kicking again.

People are mostly clueless on this forum and many other botting sites, It's just the way it is in the Runescape community, I doubt many people will even read those articles

Agreed, which is why it annoys me when people consistently ask for antiban in scripts. In my opinion it actually increases the ban chance as that just means there are more mouse movements for Jagex to analyze and see a pattern. On the other hand it could decrease it just like the name suggests because of the break from a continuous task. It's about finding the lesser of two evils.

Agreed, which is why it annoys me when people consistently ask for antiban in scripts. In my opinion it actually increases the ban chance as that just means there are more mouse movements for Jagex to analyze and see a pattern. On the other hand it could decrease it just like the name suggests because of the break from a continuous task. It's about finding the lesser of two evils.

 

You're a breath of fresh air, exactly what I was thinking.

 

Adding onto what you said I think when a working webwalking method comes into play from the developers, there should be more than one way to get to a certain point, just like a human would.. you wouldn't just go to each exact tile every single time.

Honestly the whole botting scene of Runescape need's a kick up the backside, p****bot have an ambitious idea in how to combat against pattern detection and I'm not sure if they will pull it off, but at least they get it and how this whole situation of how bans have changed over the last years compared to pre eoc. The whole community of Runescape botting and it's stubbornness doesn't help anyone either, there is still people out there who don't even believe in botwatch in 07..

 

Thing's need to change and very very fast, otherwise we all be left in the dust, similar to how p****bot was when rs3 first came out.

 

It really is sad, I see Jagex improving their detection methods but hardly anything from any botting developers, I really don't care about all the pretty stuff, I want changes that protect us from bans and give us that edge again, Jagex are in control and it honestly sucks.

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You're a breath of fresh air, exactly what I was thinking.

 

Adding onto what you said I think when a working webwalking method comes into play from the developers, there should be more than one way to get to a certain point, just like a human would.. you wouldn't just go to each exact tile every single time.

Honestly the whole botting scene of Runescape need's a kick up the backside, p****bot have an ambitious idea in how to combat against pattern detection and I'm not sure if they will pull it off, but at least they get it and how this whole situation of how bans have changed over the last years compared to pre eoc. The whole community of Runescape botting and it's stubbornness doesn't help anyone either, there is still people out there who don't even believe in botwatch in 07..

 

Thing's need to change and very very fast, otherwise we all be left in the dust, similar to how p****bot was when rs3 first came out.

 

It really is sad, I see Jagex improving their detection methods but hardly anything from any botting developers, I really don't care about all the pretty stuff, I want changes that protect us from bans and give us that edge again, Jagex are in control and it honestly sucks.

The thing is Jagex have been continuously updating their detection methods throughout the years and clients are still using the same technology since actual 07 scape was around. I can literally make a client just from copy/pasting resources online that I find from 5+ years ago.

 

What needs to happen is a fix for the randomization. It's so easy to detect mouse movements because after awhile a pattern forms as computers cannot truly generate random numbers. Something like this http://www.technologyreview.com/view/418445/first-evidence-that-quantum-processes-generate-truly-random-numbers/

The thing is Jagex have been continuously updating their detection methods throughout the years and clients are still using the same technology since actual 07 scape was around. I can literally make a client just from copy/pasting resources online that I find from 5+ years ago.

 

What needs to happen is a fix for the randomization. It's so easy to detect mouse movements because after awhile a pattern forms as computers cannot truly generate random numbers. Something like this http://www.technologyreview.com/view/418445/first-evidence-that-quantum-processes-generate-truly-random-numbers/

 

100% agree with you buddy.

 

We can only hope at this point, but maybe it will take many more months of bans for everyone to start believing.