Completely agreed. On the topic of myself for all I know I could be a complete failure, or an overnight billionaire. College is a great safety net, yes, anyone who goes and does half decent can get a decent paying job and live comfortably their whole lives. But what about the big dreamers, the next Mark Zuckerbergs? Yes they can go to college, but their not going to use their degree at all. They will use the KNOWLEDGE they used from going (which now a days you can get for free online) to better themselves. As Zappa stated above, college merely turns people into robots designed to fill in jobs, not critical thinkers.

My whole degree is critical thinking. What are you trying to say?

Nope, no critical thinking here

 

You're also working FOR a company, making a SPECIFIC salary, and abiding by your BOSSES rules.

 

Yes there's critical thinking. However you are still playing the game based on other peoples desires, not of your own.

You're also working FOR a company, making a SPECIFIC salary, and abiding by your BOSSES rules.

 

Yes there's critical thinking. However you are still playing the game based on other peoples desires, not of your own.

That is completely wrong. You have an idea, you patent it, your company pays you per time they use the patent. Or you just get a nice big bonus at the end of the year. If you have significant contributions to a company, they reward you with a partnership where you actually own part of the company.

Sure, I'd like to make my own formula one car, but... I don't have billions of dollars to spend designing and testing one. So I'd rather work on a team inside a company. Plus the salary isn't too bad in itself. Very easy to live comfortably.

Oh, also you can't have a SPECIFIC salary. You get raises etc either once or twice a year which range 3% to 10% based on your contributions. All you're doing is shouting to the world how much you don't know about careers.

Edited October 16, 201312 yr by dreamliner

 

You're also working FOR a company, making a SPECIFIC salary, and abiding by your BOSSES rules.

 

Yes there's critical thinking. However you are still playing the game based on other peoples desires, not of your own.

That is completely wrong. You have an idea, you patent it, your company pays you per time they use the patent. Or you just get a nice big bonus at the end of the year. If you have significant contributions to a company, they reward you with a partnership where you actually own part of the company.

Sure, I'd like to make my own formula one car, but... I don't have billions of dollars to spend designing and testing one. So I'd rather work on a team inside a company. Plus the salary isn't too bad in itself. Very easy to live comfortably.

Oh, also you can't have a SPECIFIC salary. You get raises etc either once or twice a year which range 3% to 10% based on your contributions. All you're doing is shouting to the world how much you don't know about careers.

 

I'm 17 on an OSRS internet forum. Evidently I'm a complete genius.

I'm 17 on an OSRS internet forum. Evidently I'm a complete genius.

You talk like you are.

 

You're also working FOR a company, making a SPECIFIC salary, and abiding by your BOSSES rules.

 

Yes there's critical thinking. However you are still playing the game based on other peoples desires, not of your own.

That is completely wrong. You have an idea, you patent it, your company pays you per time they use the patent. Or you just get a nice big bonus at the end of the year. If you have significant contributions to a company, they reward you with a partnership where you actually own part of the company.

Sure, I'd like to make my own formula one car, but... I don't have billions of dollars to spend designing and testing one. So I'd rather work on a team inside a company. Plus the salary isn't too bad in itself. Very easy to live comfortably.

Oh, also you can't have a SPECIFIC salary. You get raises etc either once or twice a year which range 3% to 10% based on your contributions. All you're doing is shouting to the world how much you don't know about careers.

 

 

I agree with 90% of what you've said dreamliner, minus of course the needlessness of B.A./B.s.c. Major bashing. The majority our future teachers (minus specialized College and university profs) will typically obtain an B.A./B.s.c. degree. Furthermore, most of the driving forces involved in the Job/Labor Market (which seems to be a central point of this debate) is explained through a purely Arts discipline.

 

I agree with 90% of what you've said dreamliner, minus of course the needlessness of B.A./B.s.c. Major bashing. The majority our future teachers (minus specialized College and university profs) will typically obtain an B.A./B.s.c. degree. Furthermore, most of the driving forces involved in the Job/Labor Market (which seems to be a central point of this debate) is explained through a purely Arts discipline.

Well said, however no arts degree should be paying 30k+ a year for a career that will yield maybe 30k starting. If you're going to go to an expensive school, at least get a degree in a STEM field.

(leave those degrees to community college where it's much more affordable)

Now if you're getting a PHD or masters, sure go to a big school, but to put yourself in that much debt is just insane.

That being said, we can't have everyone in the world go to college, because everyone will be overqualified for the unskilled jobs that we need done. However the future of this planet lies in the hands of the people with STEM degrees

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/STEM_fields

Edited October 17, 201312 yr by dreamliner

To gain education ...?

Prove and test your capacity to learn and persist with something. Majority of things learnt is irrelevant or not how or what the employer needs. Survival of the fittest, adapt and gain a good job.

College is preparing you for University. Mostly just giving you knowledge on things that you will use in the future, help you or teach you do essays, wich is like 70% of Univeristy. For example if your going to learn programming in University, your going to need to have a base in programming, such as maths, or programming classes in college as well. 

 

So the purpose of college is preparation for University

College is preparing you for University. Mostly just giving you knowledge on things that you will use in the future, help you or teach you do essays, wich is like 70% of Univeristy. For example if your going to learn programming in University, your going to need to have a base in programming, such as maths, or programming classes in college as well. 

 

So the purpose of college is preparation for University

College ang University are the same thing in USA - he means what would be equivalent to University

To lean.

To make friends.

To have fun.

To get a degree.

To experience new things.

And more!

 

College is preparing you for University. Mostly just giving you knowledge on things that you will use in the future, help you or teach you do essays, wich is like 70% of Univeristy. For example if your going to learn programming in University, your going to need to have a base in programming, such as maths, or programming classes in college as well. 

 

So the purpose of college is preparation for University

College ang University are the same thing in USA - he means what would be equivalent to University

 

College in USA is college. University are [C]SU or a UC. Universities in USA are different from colleges. The C in the [-] is the first letter of the state you are in.

Edited October 28, 201312 yr by flaxspinner

College? I'm not interested in that.

Gravedigging FTW?

To lean.

To make friends.

To have fun.

To get a degree.

To experience new things.

And more!

QFT.

 

I've posted in this thread before, but I'm in university investing 4 years of my life so that the other 50 can be great. I will be working on a boat for about 3 months and then have a month a half off. I would much rather do that than get some shitty job. In my free time I can perhaps build up a business sometime, if I feel like that.