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Kati2

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  1. No personal information of other member's is allowed to be posted on the forum, even with their permission. They must post it themselves if they wish for it to be. This includes, but is not limited to: 
     

    > Names;
    > Personal photos;
    > Instant Messaging;
    > Phone numbers;
    > Addresses;
    > E-mails;
    > Name relations from other communities or anywhere else;
     
     
    Ban Pls
  2. I thought about this for a while before creating the staff team. After plenty of thinking, definitely not.

     

    Pros:

    - Superficial reassurance that makes random members feel more secure about the soon to be global or soon to be not global.

     

    Cons:

    - Hidden image of the user's real intentions. (They'll step up their game during trial and drop it once they have global. All you're doing is showing them that they've passed the test stage and you're implying that their position is now secure.)

     

    - More work for everyone.

     

    - More complaints by members about the trial moderator.

     

    - Unable to limit moderation abilities, meaning they would technically be a global.

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  3. You refuse to answer how much you will pay for a service, yet you demand trust in that you will pay for what the project is worth (Slightly ironic). If anything, you can provide a max price for everything being perfect. If it's perfect, it's perfect, so name your price and you should get more applicants.

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    OSBot.org, its administrators, beneficiaries, owners, and/or users can not and will not be held liable for any legal and/or financial claim.

     

    In reference to absurd requests, this is illegal.

     

     

     

    Thanks for that. Will fix in a few minutes and edit this post with the updated version.

     

    In terms of Dutch laws, a Dutch member will have to help me with that. It should be fixed relatively soon and updated, though.

     

     

     

    Depending on what you're looking for, this can be useful for terms of privacy and rights: http://wetten.overheid.nl/BWBR0011468/geldigheidsdatum_10-09-2013

  5. I have a new ToS that I wrote up, that is waiting to be implemented. Will edit and throw in spoiler in a moment.

     

    Terms of Service

     

    By clicking "I accept" at the bottom of this page, you hereby agree to the following terms:

    OSBot.org, its administrators, beneficiaries, owners, and/or users can not and will not be held liable for any legal and/or financial claim.

    OSBot.org reserves the right to suspend access to any and all of its services offered at any given time without the need to supply reason.

    OSBot.org does not require payment, any and all payments and/or financial support is the sole decision of the user, and will be considered a donation.

    All donations are final, and will not be disputed. No refunds will be given regardless of situation or reason for said refund.

    You are not currently registered, subscribed, or in any way take part in any product, website, or otherwise available service produced, sold, or made available by Jagex, its subdivisions, administrators, employees, beneficiaries, or any subdomains, and therefore are not subject to their terms of service.

    You are over the age of eightteen (18) years and are a legal adult.

    OSBot.org will cooperate with authorities to prosecute any and all illegal activities conducted on the OSBot.org domain, subdomain, as well as any illegal activity conducted using any product or service provided by OSBot.org.

    RuneScape® and RS® are trademarks of Jagex © 1999 - 2013 Jagex, Ltd.

    OSBot.org (OSBot) is not affiliated with Jagex. Subject to Terms and Conditions. All rights reserved.

     

    I accept

    Decline

     

    If you didn't write them in accordance to the Dutch laws, better get to re-writing...

     

     

     

     

    OSBot.org, its administrators, beneficiaries, owners, and/or users can not and will not be held liable for any legal and/or financial claim.

     

    In reference to absurd requests, this is illegal.

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  6. Because I care about certain staff members, members of the community, and osbot as a whole, I feel some things in the ToS should be pointed out.

     

    OSBot is an established Dutch company, meaning the terms of service on this site not only are subject to jurisdiction of where the dedicated server is located, but also the rules and regulations as set by Dutch law.

     

    I'll start from the beginning. The ToS is severely outdated. 

    The images and information contained in our website are copyright woeks and our exlusive property. The content of this website may in no case be copied, reproduced, transmitted, distributed or displayed by any means unless done with the sole intention and purpose of personal use only or our formal written consent. 
    

    Contrary to the believe of the ToS, all of the information and images posted on the website are not rightfully OSBot's. This is the exact opposite of what the Dutch law allows.

    We hold the right at any time, and without prior notice, to stop to supply any of our products or services provided by us and we will be in no way liable to you in any way if we decide to stop such supply. 
    

    That is quite untrue. OSBot does not hold the right to stop supply if it is guaranteed to you upon purchase, even with an agreement. The statement is considered an unreasonable request.

    Your use of the forum is governed by the forum Terms and Conditions which are agreed upon registration and can be found through a link in the footer.
    

    There is no ToS link in the /forum/ footer.

     

    A very severe issue relates to scripts. Scripters, there was never any stable contract signing over your intellectual property rights (which, according to Dutch laws, are directly given and bound to any work you create individually) for the scripts OSBot is selling. As far as I'm concerned, your scripts are being sold without consent. If you'd like to argue that point, show me the contract containing your signature agreeing to waiver your rights. 

     

    Feel free to criticize as I love criticism.

     

    Thank you, and please make the ToS more clear.

     

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    Just report any post considered as spam? We will instantly take care of it wink.png

    you do know your supposed to do more than handle reports right.. I was browsing topics not just "funny" ones... And was browsing pretty much every market topic... Mods need to realize they are not here to sit and talk to everyone 24/7 they need to just help when there are problems and work in keeping the forums clean. I don't understand why u think it needs to be reported for it t be removed.

    I see raflesia talking to people more than he should he needs to be working on getting things right so many suggestions need to be implemented rules need to be re written because Kati wrote them and isn't staff anymore. Need to add a rule bar to the top of the site.

    Also noticed mods sit in chat way to much and chat about random stupid stuff. There is a time and place for that. I remember me and Kati literally maybe 30 minutes were talking but in there for a few hours monitoring it and making sure it wasn't getting to bad. Also in no way am I saying ignore people im saying try focusing on more then reports

    Maybe that's why I was not liked because I didn't have time to sit and talk to people all day, but not once were there as many reports as there is today.

     

     

     

     

     

    Just report any post considered as spam? We will instantly take care of it wink.png

    you do know your supposed to do more than handle reports right.. I was browsing topics not just "funny" ones... And was browsing pretty much every market topic... Mods need to realize they are not here to sit and talk to everyone 24/7 they need to just help when there are problems and work in keeping the forums clean. I don't understand why u think it needs to be reported for it t be removed.

    I see raflesia talking to people more than he should he needs to be working on getting things right so many suggestions need to be implemented rules need to be re written because Kati wrote them and isn't staff anymore. Need to add a rule bar to the top of the site.

    Also noticed mods sit in chat way to much and chat about random stupid stuff. There is a time and place for that. I remember me and Kati literally maybe 30 minutes were talking but in there for a few hours monitoring it and making sure it wasn't getting to bad. Also in no way am I saying ignore people im saying try focusing on more then reports

    Maybe that's why I was not liked because I didn't have time to sit and talk to people all day, but not once were there as many reports as there is today.

     

     

    If what I gathered from your post was correct, you don't want mods to talk about random things in the chat and instead focus on monitoring the chatbox or Forums (hard to understand)?

    You can't actually expect any staff member of a Forum to be 100% serious at all times and not joke around/chat in the chatbox. The Forums are being monitored while they are chatting (from what I've seen).

     

    P.S. - Respect from people (being liked) as a staff member doesn't come from sitting and talking to people, it comes from your work ethic as well as quality of work.

     

    OT: I believe the current staff can handle it, with more focused moderation on the Market section.

     

    Good idea though!

     

     

    Honestly you'll never please everyone and that shouldn't be your goal. Why think irrationally? So what's left for the moderators to do is try to please the majority, as a second priority, leaving their responsibilities and roles as a member of the staff team at the top of the list. It's not difficult because you can do them at the same time. If you know how to tell someone they're in the wrong in a positive way while going on to your next task with maturity, you're an expert with communication. 

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    Nice toenails <3

     

     

    Not my toenails. They are however quite nice, just as your member title.

     

     

     

    Saw an ad the other day.. Made me think of you <3

     

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    LOL

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