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Disputed member: Aza http://osbot.org/forum/user/3226-aza/

 

Thread Link: http://osbot.org/forum/topic/57135-108-cb-main-1680-total-perfect-for-pvming-07-gp-only/

 

Explanation: 

I went 75% first, and he scammed 33m. Sent me an email link to change email, but it was wrong account (so I did not change email!) and it was a non-ranked account.. i suspect non memb lvl 3 rs3 account. So I did not change email and immediately after my suspection I asked for the 33m back before we proceed. He said "yes," but proceeded to delete me from skype and log from rs with my 33m.

 

 

Evidence:

End of scam.. ends up on skype with his 'not shared details' after he deleted me...

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Chat log..
[3:51:08 PM] Aarun M : aza here
[3:51:14 PM] *** Runnin' With Scissors has shared contact details with Aarun M . ***
[3:51:35 PM] Aarun M : hey dude
[3:51:43 PM] Runnin' With Scissors: Hey mate.
[3:51:49 PM] Runnin' With Scissors: UK (y)
[3:51:57 PM] Aarun M : Yes mate aha
[3:52:02 PM] Runnin' With Scissors: Anyway, so the highest bid still 30M?
[3:52:08 PM] Runnin' With Scissors: More specifically, England (y)
[3:52:17 PM] Aarun M : Yup, so far I've had a 30m bid and a 40m
[3:52:24 PM] Aarun M : Both of them didnt go with buying my account
[3:52:29 PM] Aarun M : Both of them got scammed by someone else.
[3:52:31 PM] Aarun M : so..
[3:52:38 PM] Runnin' With Scissors: so what's the A/W atm?
[3:53:07 PM] Aarun M : I'm gonna keep the A/W at 45m, I not in a rush to sell it
[3:53:42 PM] Aarun M : I keep having different opinions about OSRS recently
[3:53:48 PM] Aarun M : One day i wanna get rid of the account
[3:53:53 PM] Aarun M : the next ill happily play on it all day
[3:53:55 PM] Aarun M : its weird aha
[3:53:56 PM] Runnin' With Scissors: Lol I feel you.
[3:54:02 PM] Runnin' With Scissors: That why you keep updating its qp etc?
[3:54:16 PM] Aarun M : Yup, I keep on levelling and everything
[3:54:34 PM] Aarun M : When the time comes If i want to sell it I'd transfer everything onto my new aacount id make
[3:54:55 PM] Runnin' With Scissors: Reason I asked for A/W is because I was thinking of bidding 40M, but wondering if you would take that as an autowin.
[3:55:38 PM] Aarun M : At one point I would have accepted that but I'm thinking 45m is now the perfect amount for the account
[3:55:42 PM] Aarun M : Its 109 combat now btw
[3:55:48 PM] Aarun M : Need to update the thread again lol
[3:57:04 PM] Runnin' With Scissors: Yeah I would of said if autowin is 45 then i'll take it. But atm my other main has low gp, so i'd need to buy like 50m gp and was thinking 10m is a good amount to have left over for the account. Maybe i'll think about it though.
[3:57:09 PM] Runnin' With Scissors: Need a better PvMer see
[3:57:16 PM] Aarun M : yeah i getcha
[3:57:22 PM] Aarun M : Just saw you were a lifetime sponsor dayum
[3:57:27 PM] Runnin' With Scissors: Yeah
[3:57:36 PM] Aarun M : Just between us I'd get your money back, OSBot is on the decline
[3:57:50 PM] Runnin' With Scissors: Is it?
[3:57:50 PM] Aarun M : I've been on the forum since the beginning, its 100% dying
[3:58:21 PM] Runnin' With Scissors: I figured I was supporting it... but wasn't aware on it's status
[3:58:23 PM] Aarun M : Stil waiting on my veteran rank but Maldesto is a twat
[3:58:42 PM] Aarun M : Yeah, I mean they said OSBot 2 was coming out around May
[3:58:51 PM] Aarun M : Came out June, but its a pile of wank
[3:58:56 PM] Runnin' With Scissors: Oo
[3:59:05 PM] Aarun M : Jagex are cracking down like mad aswell, wouldnt even touch the bot
[3:59:10 PM] Runnin' With Scissors: Yep
[3:59:20 PM] Runnin' With Scissors: I tried the bot... one ip, one account.. banned after 24 hours
[3:59:33 PM] Runnin' With Scissors: Premium script
[3:59:51 PM] Aarun M : Yeah exactly, sponsor isnt worth it anymore except for the forums where you can brag using it aa
[3:59:54 PM] Aarun M : aha*
[4:00:11 PM] Aarun M : and the fact 70% of the people who got lifetime sponsor have eventually scamquit is not a good sign :P
[4:00:37 PM] Runnin' With Scissors: Lol... bought sponsor to scam?
[4:00:59 PM] Aarun M : Nah aha, I'm just saying lifetime sponsor hasn't been associated too well with the forum
[4:01:31 PM] Aarun M : btw did you want me to put down on the thread you bid 40m or?
[4:03:40 PM] Runnin' With Scissors: hmm
[4:06:56 PM] Aarun M : Just let me know aha, if another bid comes in I'll let you know aswell just incase
[4:07:41 PM] Runnin' With Scissors: just checking in here... how about 44m? is that close enough for ya? ;)
[4:07:59 PM] Aarun M : Pwoaaaaar
[4:08:06 PM] Aarun M : If you were american I'd have said no :P
[4:09:06 PM] Aarun M : Yeah I guess I'd check that, do you wanna screenshare quickly so you can see i actually am Aza + i have the account? I've sold 2 accounts before and done this both times so?
[4:10:39 PM] Runnin' With Scissors: Yeah. I'm going to need to get the RSGP first, which I can do as soon as Divica (or worker) is online
[4:10:59 PM] Runnin' With Scissors: But yes some kind of proof would be great
[4:11:11 PM] Aarun M : Thats fine, I've gotta transfer the wealth over anyway
[4:11:14 PM] Aarun M : call me quickly
[4:11:18 PM] *** Call from Aarun M , duration 00:53. ***
[4:12:15 PM] Runnin' With Scissors: Okay cool
[4:12:30 PM] Runnin' With Scissors: btw any reason why you didn't finish rfd? :P
[4:12:50 PM] Aarun M : Desert treasure is a pain, I've been meanign to do it and all the prequests but meh
[4:12:56 PM] Aarun M : dragon gloves arent too bad anyway lol
[4:13:29 PM] Runnin' With Scissors: Ah, yeah
[4:14:00 PM] Aarun M : When do you think you are going to buy the gp? As I'm not 100% sure i wanna sell and I don't want you to buy that much and then for me to go no i dont wanna sell
[4:14:27 PM] Runnin' With Scissors: as soon as divica is on I can
[4:14:30 PM] Aarun M : Just gonna think about it you see xD
[4:15:31 PM] Runnin' With Scissors: I'd compensate with a lower lvl account in case you wanted to replay osrs.. but I only have one other main now :P
[4:15:50 PM] Aarun M : I'd understand aha, i wouldnt expect you to give me another account anyway aha
[4:17:42 PM] Runnin' With Scissors: Well when you trade what will you do with the OSGP?
[4:18:01 PM] Aarun M : Thinking to make a initiate pure
[4:18:08 PM] Aarun M : They look like fun aha
[4:18:11 PM] Runnin' With Scissors: defo
[4:18:30 PM] Runnin' With Scissors: I'm not one for pures myself but I do watch pure pking from time to time
[4:18:41 PM] Runnin' With Scissors: Looks fun, I just don't have the knack for pking ;] more of a pvmer
[4:18:56 PM] Aarun M : Yeah, I like pvming alot but intiatepure just looks fricking awesome
[4:19:54 PM] Runnin' With Scissors: watched b0aty initiate?
[4:20:16 PM] Aarun M : I havent aha, But i've been watching his streams recently and they are awesome
[4:23:57 PM] Runnin' With Scissors: Yeah
[4:29:04 PM] Runnin' With Scissors: You know, if you want to sell this account for £GBP instead, we can do it via BACS bank transfer.
[4:29:47 PM] Aarun M : Yeah, the reason I do it in 07 gp is so then I can't be charged back as Its happened many times to me
[4:29:56 PM] Aarun M : I'd sell the account, they'd charge back
[4:30:06 PM] Aarun M : I'd then wait a day to recover it and hope it isn't banned
[4:30:18 PM] Runnin' With Scissors: Yeah that's the problem with Paypal ;/
[4:30:31 PM] Aarun M : Yeah, whereas with 07 gp its safer
[4:30:42 PM] Aarun M : But I've had problems with middlemen sometimes
[4:31:03 PM] Aarun M : Nearly got myself banned on a botting forum before, middleman took the dudes 30m when i was selling another account, tried to blame me
[4:31:09 PM] Runnin' With Scissors: I'd never offer to pay via Paypal just for that reason
[4:31:19 PM] Aarun M : Dude had over 100 feedback as a middleman aswell which was like wtf
[4:31:23 PM] Runnin' With Scissors: And damn. Can't trust anyone!
[4:32:10 PM] Runnin' With Scissors: But so you can recover that easy.. and do other people have same details you'd be selling me?
[4:32:21 PM] Aarun M : Yeah, last 2 accounts I've sold thru OSBot what i've done is take 75%, then changed the email to what you want by giving you the email link to the account email change and then i take the rest and give recoveries/creation date etc
[4:32:24 PM] Aarun M : Nope, i am the original owner
[4:32:36 PM] Runnin' With Scissors: You not sold this one before?
[4:32:41 PM] Aarun M : I can show you the pic of its first name and the date
[4:32:41 PM] Aarun M : Nope
[4:32:47 PM] Aarun M : Had this since the beginning 
[4:32:53 PM] Runnin' With Scissors: I mean a failed sale, when you recovered
[4:33:05 PM] Aarun M : No, that was on another pure i sold
[4:33:15 PM] Runnin' With Scissors: I see
[4:33:36 PM] Aarun M : I stopped on my main last year, made a 1 def pure, got the stats up enough to be able to sell it for $45
[4:33:51 PM] Aarun M : Americans and there dollars, especially when i tell them they are covering exchange costs
[4:34:00 PM] Runnin' With Scissors: Lols
[4:34:54 PM] Runnin' With Scissors: So you want 07GP and not BACS? Just so you know there is no protection on BACS for reversing a payment. But either way I don't mind, just an option for you in case you wanted the ££ instead of GP!
[4:35:19 PM] Aarun M : Yeah, 07 gp would be great 
[4:35:27 PM] Runnin' With Scissors: Okay
[4:35:56 PM] Aarun M : 2 secs, I'll show you the creation date email, I'll have to blank certain things out ofc such as transactiond details but that way i can prove i'm owner
[4:36:12 PM] Runnin' With Scissors: Okay
[4:36:24 PM] Aarun M : It makes sense as the email login to the account is my personal email if that says I'm the original owner more
[4:37:02 PM] Runnin' With Scissors: is the email long?
[4:37:39 PM] Aarun M : xxxxxxxxxxx@hotmail.co.uk
[4:37:42 PM] Aarun M : if thats long aha
[4:38:25 PM] Runnin' With Scissors: Average I guess ^^
[4:39:47 PM] Aarun M : here, i've edited a screenshot of the first email for the account that has creation date/transaction ID for the account
[4:40:12 PM] Aarun M : It has had 4 previous name changes, all which i shall given along with other transactiond etails etc.
[4:40:15 PM] *** Call from Aarun M ***
[4:40:32 PM] Aarun M : 1 sec
[4:40:34 PM] *** Call ended, duration 00:19 ***
[4:41:29 PM] Aarun M : That okay?
[4:41:47 PM] Runnin' With Scissors: yeah
[4:41:52 PM] Runnin' With Scissors: how many membs days left on this?
[4:42:11 PM] Aarun M : I've the creation date, transaction emails, previous names in a notepad file so i can just send after first payment
[4:42:17 PM] Aarun M : 12 days left, that should be okay right?
[4:42:24 PM] Aarun M : I had to put a bond on it again
[4:42:29 PM] Runnin' With Scissors: yea
[4:42:33 PM] Aarun M : As it ran out couple of days ago
[4:42:49 PM] Aarun M : Bad business to sell an account with no members left on it
[4:42:58 PM] Runnin' With Scissors: ;]
[4:43:24 PM] Aarun M : Gotta keep the customers happy so i get good feedback aha
[4:44:09 PM] Aarun M : My 5 feedback may look like nothing but its about 45m worth of trades within that, I could be one of those guys with 40 feedback for 40 1M trades but imo feedback for that is stupid
[4:45:24 PM] Runnin' With Scissors: yup
[4:45:54 PM] Aarun M : I understand that you are supposed to build up feedback like that but theres no risk in 1M
[4:46:42 PM] Runnin' With Scissors: I can see your point (inlove)
[4:46:46 PM] Runnin' With Scissors: Wrong emote..
[4:46:47 PM] Runnin' With Scissors:  *
[4:47:51 PM] Aarun M : aww in love with meh ;)
[4:47:55 PM] Aarun M : aha
[4:47:56 PM] Runnin' With Scissors: Hah
[4:52:57 PM] Aarun M : :P
[5:49:00 PM] Runnin' With Scissors: Did you transfer wealth off? I thought Divica would be online by now, but still offline (even on live chat)!
[5:49:54 PM] Aarun M : I have, wealth is sitting on my non-mem mule. Got a IRL friend to hold on to the members items.
[5:50:33 PM] Aarun M : Untrades left on the account are: Imbued slayer helm, fire cape, full zammy book, full prossy, imbued crystal bow, imbued crystal shield, 2/10 crystal shield, crystal tele seed
[5:51:16 PM] Runnin' With Scissors: Okay cool
[5:52:09 PM] Aarun M : Cancelled the bank pin, after second payment when i hand the recovery details over i'll give the pin then, want me to leave untradables in the inv or in bank?
[5:52:31 PM] Aarun M : oh and graceful legs + gloves
[5:52:35 PM] Aarun M : rune def
[5:52:40 PM] Aarun M : d gloves
[5:53:11 PM] Runnin' With Scissors: Either is fine.. drop into bank to secure them if it makes you feel better 
[5:53:45 PM] Aarun M : Okay 
[5:54:19 PM] Aarun M : Is Divica that cheap when it comes to buying gold?
[5:54:27 PM] Aarun M : Like whats his rate? $3.2/m?
[5:54:51 PM | Edited 5:54:56 PM] Runnin' With Scissors: Not really. Probably expensive but I can trust and always had bulk
[5:55:23 PM] Aarun M : Yeah fair enough, his feedback when selling gold says enough i guess
[5:56:17 PM] Runnin' With Scissors: He's online now.
[5:56:27 PM] Aarun M : Okay cool
[5:56:49 PM] Aarun M : Just let me know when
[5:57:43 PM] Runnin' With Scissors: Will do. In contact now.
[5:59:38 PM] Runnin' With Scissors: Ok collecting the cash
[5:59:48 PM] Aarun M : That was quick
[5:59:52 PM] Runnin' With Scissors: ;]
[6:00:04 PM] Runnin' With Scissors: That's another one of his points
[6:00:06 PM] Aarun M : It usually takes like 10mins, longer for the chinese goldfarmers aha
[6:00:10 PM] Runnin' With Scissors: (their)
[6:00:19 PM] Runnin' With Scissors: lol yeah
[6:00:22 PM] Aarun M : Yeah i always thought it was 1 guy too aha
[6:01:48 PM] Runnin' With Scissors: yeah it's like 3
[6:02:02 PM] Aarun M : No wonder they can be a near 24/7 business
[6:02:08 PM] Runnin' With Scissors: haha yeah
[6:02:14 PM] Aarun M : one guy covering 8 time zones
[6:02:22 PM] Runnin' With Scissors: main guy is UK!
[6:02:25 PM] Runnin' With Scissors: but workers in US
[6:02:41 PM] Aarun M : See, americans on OSBot always seem to piss me off
[6:02:50 PM] Aarun M : I don't mind the europeans though, they usually dutch
[6:03:05 PM] Aarun M : They just always find a way to piss you off
[6:03:24 PM] Runnin' With Scissors: 33m / 11m ?
[6:04:03 PM] Aarun M : Yeah, so 33m. I then give you the link to change the email. Once email is changed the account is in your hands. Then second payment of 11m and i send the recovery details etc.
[6:04:05 PM] Aarun M : That okay?
[6:04:27 PM] Aarun M : Its usually how i do it
[6:04:29 PM] Runnin' With Scissors: Yes. Can you please screen share whilst collecting cash so I know you have it
[6:04:33 PM] Aarun M : Yeah sure
[6:04:35 PM] Runnin' With Scissors: thanks
[6:04:37 PM] Runnin' With Scissors: world?
[6:04:47 PM] Aarun M : 381, new account is nonmems for now
[6:04:52 PM | Edited 6:04:57 PM] Runnin' With Scissors: okay
[6:05:04 PM] Runnin' With Scissors: Varrock?
[6:05:13 PM] Aarun M : lummy spawn bank please
[6:05:22 PM] Runnin' With Scissors: np
[6:05:43 PM] *** Call from Aarun M ***
[6:06:52 PM] Aarun M : take screenie like this if you want
[6:07:13 PM] Aarun M : okay
[6:07:17 PM] Aarun M : jsut gonna send the email now
[6:07:18 PM] *** Call ended, duration 01:35 ***
[6:07:21 PM] Runnin' With Scissors: okay
[6:07:31 PM] Aarun M : https://secure.runescape.com/m=email-register/current_address_change_code.ws?changekey=qIPCx4ZYYbRWFXr0QwQFiiKPoKl6Olx1rV8M%2ag
[6:07:38 PM] Aarun M : Change it yourself to the correct email please
[6:07:59 PM] Aarun M : This way i can't be at blame for any mistakes, it has happened in the past
[6:08:25 PM] Runnin' With Scissors: doing so now
[6:09:22 PM] Runnin' With Scissors: says 'Hi powned40m, ' but this is not the username?
[6:09:28 PM] Aarun M : it is
[6:09:32 PM] Aarun M : for this account
[6:09:44 PM] Runnin' With Scissors: i thought it was r3ktd?
[6:10:03 PM] Aarun M : thats my friends, the powend account is the account i was selling, has the same stats
[6:10:24 PM] Runnin' With Scissors: but you were logged into r3ktd earlier? when u screen shared
[6:10:43 PM] Aarun M : I defintely wasn't
[6:10:57 PM] Runnin' With Scissors: can i log in b4 i change email?
[6:11:17 PM] Aarun M : After you can, i left the untrables out of the invent
[6:11:38 PM] Runnin' With Scissors: it's not the untradeables im worried about tho
[6:12:02 PM] Aarun M : I understand, people do get the name wrong. I have sold 2 accounts on OSBot no problem this way however
[6:12:33 PM] Runnin' With Scissors: powned40m is not on hiscores?
[6:12:44 PM] Aarun M : wtf
[6:12:47 PM] Aarun M : Lemme check
[6:13:20 PM] Aarun M : It can't have been banned, haven't botted on it since last october
[6:13:34 PM] Runnin' With Scissors: please can u trade back the 33m a sec?
[6:13:53 PM] Aarun M : Yeah sure, this is my mistake and i apologise
[6:14:02 PM] Aarun M : No clue whats happening, hasn't happened before
[6:14:45 PM] Runnin' With Scissors: Buddy
[6:14:56 PM] Runnin' With Scissors: I just paid £100 GBP 
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I read through the whole thing. I've had a friend staying with me the past two weeks, when I showed him this he had a shit eating grin on his face. He carries on to deny it when it is fairly obvious that he has had something to do this. I was at work all day yesterday, including during the time of the scam.

As this is my account it is only fair I take some of the blame, I will work on getting your money back. I shall try to persuade my friend to hand it over otherwise I will need 3-5weeks in order to grind out money making techniques on OSRS to make the money back.

I'm sorry this happened and I will try my best to help.

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I read through the whole thing. I've had a friend staying with me the past two weeks, when I showed him this he had a shit eating grin on his face. He carries on to deny it when it is fairly obvious that he has had something to do this. I was at work all day yesterday, including during the time of the scam.

As this is my account it is only fair I take some of the blame, I will work on getting your money back. I shall try to persuade my friend to hand it over otherwise I will need 3-5weeks in order to grind out money making techniques on OSRS to make the money back.

I'm sorry this happened and I will try my best to help.

As @Aza has openly admitted to the account being changed hands, the refund deadline will be set at 24-hours from the time of this post, this is a reasonable time frame as it is an error on your part that can be rectified with your "friend", either the 33M or the funds paid will need to be refunded, failure to do so by this date will result in a ban and if you wish to return you will need to proceed with this.

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Oh, and this is clearly you as the thread was created to sell the account on Posted 21 July 2014 - 11:07 PM

 

Unless you've been at work 24/7 for a week and your "friend" had been acting on your OSBot and RS account all this time?

 

He has access to my laptop and RS account, they were given to me so he could entertain himself while I was at work.

Majority of my logins are set to "remember me" meaning he can log into my OSBot account without knowing the password.

I did create that thread myself, I did infact have the intention of selling the account although to get your money back I'm going to have to use it to make the cash back.

I have taken full blame for this and will try to rectify this mistake, he still denies it and I personally don't wish to be banned as i have sunk alot of time into this forum.

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He has access to my laptop and RS account, they were given to me so he could entertain himself while I was at work.

Majority of my logins are set to "remember me" meaning he can log into my OSBot account without knowing the password.

I did create that thread myself, I did infact have the intention of selling the account although to get your money back I'm going to have to use it to make the cash back.

I have taken full blame for this and will try to rectify this mistake, he still denies it and I personally don't wish to be banned as i have sunk alot of time into this forum.

So get your friend to give back the gp, it was obviously him, either get the gp back or give the guy the account. You have 24 hours, not 7 days. if you want to be unbanned after the 24 hours if you can't get him the gp by then. You can appeal after you've paid back.

It is your responsibility for your skype + OSBot account.

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