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3/17 So we have all experienced the banhammer very much as of late and I would just like to share my personal experiences here to help everyone out. To do so I conducted a mini experiment: I've recently been using the Lazy Assistant Script by Project Pat (Great Product). I made 2 accounts use it via injection and one via mirror. Then I wced all the accounts for 8 hours in Mirror Mode. Today the two accounts that I used with the injection client with Lazy Assistant this morning were banned, While the one fully used in mirror mode is still chopping away. Conclusion: From this I've resolved that Jagex can go back and check if your account has used the injection method, regardless of how many days ago it was. I can also safely assume they have some sort of program that scans their player database for injection and *poof*... they nail the banhammer into your precious account. This also explains how they can forgo an appeals process on these accounts as well, because they have the hard evidence showing that some external program has altered their game. I will continue to post updates on accounts etc if evidence begins to show me differently, but my recommendation is that injection is dead. So use only mirror mode. Otherwise your account is a short-living ticking time bomb. Happy botting guys! 3/18 Alright so some new information. I stupidly ran both, the surviving strictly mirror account, and a new account (set up completely with mirror mode) for 14 hours wcing and they as of today have both been perma banned. The wcing ban rate is very high right now and both areas where I botted were F2P. My theory update is that as well as an automated system they have JMods that watch F2P worlds like a hawk. Will be switching my botting regiment up to make it a little less obvious. Going to make some member accounts and work on various stats. From this I'm drawing that F2P suiciding is not gonna be the way to go. More to come here... 3/19 - 3/23 Alright so I made a weird discovery here over the past couple days regarding injection, but I think I have some really good insight regarding new accounts because of it. So over the past couple days I made three new F2P accounts (all of which were going to be botted using injection). Now I think it was Maxi who had a theory regarding tiers and this I believe supports that idea. Now two of the accounts I botted just using Lazy Assistant's New Account Walker feature while the other I legitimately trained up combat a little bit, fishing, cooking, and THEN began to bot woodcutting. Now here's what the weird part was... This morning I woke up and my two Autowalker accounts were banned... They haven't even been skilled at all yet and the walker was flawless, but obviously their system still detected the injected client. My woodcutter however managed to survive... My theory here is that there are tiers for accounts possibly based on total levels. You better believe Jagex watches those new F2P accounts like hawks, but if you legitimately play on the account for a little bit and switch it up skills wise you basically pass a "legitimacy test". The other thing I found strange too is that I purposely botted all these accounts on the same IP on the same computer at the same time and only the fresher two got banned. Any ideas on this? Please post in the replies. More insight coming soon! Special thanks to Maxi for the insight on tiers when releasing the Mirror Client. P.S. Will update post if wcer gets a delayed ban of some sort, but it doesn't look that way so far. Conclusion: From this I'm beginning to think one of two things or possibly even both... Either they scan F2P worlds for the modified clients OR they scan for it based on total levels. The third possibility is obviously that I got unlucky as shit, but that's much less likely I presume. More to come! 3/24-3/29 The following took place using mirror mode... Haven't had a ton of time to bot, but here goes nothing. The surviving bot from the previous dates has since been banned. The strange thing is the one time it got banned was the second time I botted it overnight. The mistake I made I believe was botting woodcutting consistently for too long. I spent solid 4 days approx. 10 hrs per day doing the same exact same task. I'm a believer that overnight botting is a bad idea. You better believe Jagex knows your timezone. I think the baseline tests are done and I'm going to try mixing in some legitimate play time with my next account and see how it does. Bottom line is suicide botting any one skill makes your account a ticking time bomb and ultimately is not worth it. Mirror mode is close to completely undetectable. Conclusion: I think I played in the same area too long and my account got caught because of the account patterns. We'll see if mixing it up helps out. Gonna be a little more creative and report back. Happy botting! 3/30-4/1 Alright so some less insightful news here, but good news none the less... Well the good part is that I have 3 accounts running on mirror doing different tasks every couple of hours and they have yet to be banned. The bad news is I was making an account for my man @Valkyr and was NOT using mirror mode. That account has been banned sadly. This information is obviously brief, but it's a pretty good way to start wrapping up this thread. I'll be doing some more periodic updates as my farming grows, but it will certainly be over larger periods of time. Conclusion: What I'm realizing is that with the mirror client, the only thing left to detect is patterning. In all honesty I think now it's on the scriptors to become more creative with randomized path making and movements to make everything as humanlike as possible. As far as I can see as the mirror client continues to improve, so does my botting ability. I've been having a lot of success in general with Masterace Omega. I think a lot of that is because of the randomized web walking etc and I'm beginning to see those kind of scripts being the real future as opposed to single task scripts. Good luck scriptors. You have your work cut out for ya! Credits: As the core content of this begins to wrap up (but trust me there is definitely more to come) I hope people have been getting a lot of help from my experiences. This is only the genesis, but I want to give some specific shout outs to some of the people on here who have made this research possible. @Maldesto For OSBot and the community as a whole (duh) @Maxi and the rest of the development team for working their asses off to develop the mirror client (aka the client that has saved botting). @ProjectPact for the Lazy AIO script I used for the creation of my accounts (and gratz on Son Scriptor rank buddy!) @Divinity For MasterRace which has headlined an improvement in overall bot quality from all the scriptors. And last but most certainly not least I wanna thank every who has commented with deep insight and great tips throughout the discussion here. Much of my testing was based off of assumptions you guys posted in the comments and I would have nowhere to start without you. So thank you OSBot members for your contributions and remember... THIS IS ONLY THE BEGINNING ~ Cruelhitz

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Swizzbeat got banned and refused to update his scripts, he released the majority of them open source and now he runs his own Clash of Clans bot.

May 2013 Jordan (Still Jason at the time) messages me on skype "go to osbot it's a working bot for old school" "is it like p****bot?" "yeah lol" "cool what should i make my name" "idk" "i guess ill do my same one as p****bot" "cool lets both get mod" "im in"

I fell into a deep compassionate love affair with @Anne that lasted over several weeks and to this day I still try to regain her love and nice butt.

It is still a red flag and jagex might look into your account more to see if you are a bot

Ran it while at school today

40 hour one coming soon

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Closed.

Would make alot of sense, never thought of it that way

off topic but what about hotspots? I'm thinking botwatch monitors these certain areas, pulling accounts with un-humanlike mouse movements and other variables such as maybe total level, quests, which aren't very reliable factors imo, and leaving them for weath to review not necessarily true at all seeing as all accounts are Jagex's property and they have grounds to ban you regardless of if any offence was committed or not. I'm not saying they do that, but it is not a full proof reason as to why they do not read appeals. There is also no real evidence we can provide to prove we are not botting, so reading appeals is kind of pointless from their perspective because what is stopping us from lying about our situation?

Jagex has made multiple statements regarding OSBuddy saying that they approve of it, but to use it at your own risk. The developers also run everything through Jagex before they implement new features. Jagex holds no liability for anything that happens to accounts that use OSBuddy though. Here's a thread on it if you would like to hear a little more in-depth... http://services.runescape.com/m=forum/forums.ws?317,318,360,65586611

Sure, i've enabled a 24h trial on your account. enjoy and be careful! Apaec

I bought this users gold, 213m to be exact. User was very new to the whole process, give him time if you are trying to buy it. He will usually contact me before trying to sell, so don't try to scam him, it won't happen.

thanks. edit wrong quote.

Only if you're alching. I've only ever had one reported ban from anyone using VPestControl ^_^

you should buy proxies to avoid the chainbans. IMO proxies are 100% worth it, and i usually go with 2-3 accounts on each proxy, sometimes 1 on each proxy. it really depends on what i am farming. And yes, you need to open 2 osbots, if you want to have different ip's running on your clients. if you're doing 1 account per proxy. have one osbot client with the one account, and another client with the second account.

Yep

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If you don't hand out the IP and none of your HTML/other public files mistakenly refer to it (99.9% sure they wouldn't be), they can't get it. Cloudflare is a reverse proxy, so just like when you use a proxy your IP is hidden, the servers IP is hidden in a reverse proxy Just make sure all the DNS entries on the cloudflare have an Orange cloud instead of gray and you're golden.

What plan are you using on cloudflare? I think their top tiers (business/enterprise) are the only ones with true anti-ddos measures, at the network level. Other than that, splitting the website from the game servers will help keep the stress off either or, as they can only try and hit one at a time or have to split their resources. Also profiling the code and finding hotspots (aka 1 request causes a lot of CPU or IO stress) will prevent them from being exploited. More details on the situation/what software will be running would be helpful. Also, never give the direct server IP out, or disable cloudflare on any of the vulnerable servers. Once they can get around cloudflare its game over.

It went through, thank you @Anne

Hello. Dont worry, your payment is still pending. I will pass it on because sometimes we need to accept the payment before it goes through. I'll update you.

As far is OSbot is concerned, he stopped scripting here for a while now. He is running a external project though, so i don't think he has the time to script even if he wanted.

This but you must be vip to use mirror.

Another awesome script Khaleesi! 80 herblaw so far

Huge vouch! He used to be an ex-worker of mine when I used to run NoahTheSunKing's AIO services. He's amazing with fire capes and fighter torso. I am sure he can do the other types of jobs just fine =).

just sell to probemas

Looks pretty sweet

Need new Avi and Sig! PM me. Will pay via Paypal.

too scam

A good community that can help each other:)

I came to bot until my face turned blue and shove my middle finger up Jagex's ass.

Or jagex realizing no human would stay at one area such as rock crabs for 15 hours a day for 4 days straight.

Just bought it today.. Will post more later ;)

How did three people get infracted when there are no people above him?

Service done, he met the dead line I gave him, friendly guy! Thanks a bunch mate! Completed full void for me! +1 for the rep on the way.

I've been running two bots at gnome stronghold for yews, no bans yet

How can someone getting banned be a problem with the script

Can people please stop suiciding this? Read the pins dammit.

Okay, let's start. As an account gotten banned for macoring. People, instantly say that your account is flagged, which isn't right. The fact, that is your IP under flag. Which means, when a moderator bans your account, he demands your ip and once you are banned on that ip, Jagex take your ip under the control and the look. They do spy on the IP that gotten banned, and see if any account that's running on it is being botted. And if so, they ban it instantly. I saw people saying, once you get banned, the chance of being banned again is bigger. That's incorrect. When you get banned, and you change your IP, the chance of getting busted is the same chance that you gotten busted before. However. By then, your account will be permanently banned. What jagex does. Is, receive the ips that gotten cough by moderators and take them under their look, to make sure they clear more botters from the game. Why jagex ban people 2 days?, they see the player is enough active, and have played enough of time, which spent effort on. And they give him a chance to fix what he has done. As for the first accounts, they ban it instantly because they see that account is a completely cheat for them. And they never give a chance on it. As for botting on different IP, you can also risk your account (Same as the risk you risked before). I would suggest, if you care about the account, don't take the risk on it. Hope I helped, Best of luck!

I'd just like to add a note here, since I know some people are going to read this and say "Okay no bans lemme bot for 5 days straight" and then get upset and bitch when they get banned. While the mirror client might reduce ban rates (hopefully it does), this doesn't mean you can't get banned. If you're gonna bot dumb, you're gonna get banned. Bot safe please.

Pick flax on 100,000 accounts. Spin flax on 50,000 accounts. Fletch on 25,000 accounts. Alch on 20,000 accounts. Sell gold. Wipe your ass with $100.00 bills.